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• Offset engagement Mar 15, 2022

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Now that nosotros have them legal in Idaho (regardless of how we got here).I've been doing my enquiry has anyone one had success with sevr ane.5 , grim reaper pro or g5 dead meat. Or I would take other recommendations of successful hunters. Merely to head of the naysayers, I get the drawback's and know there limitations. I'thou shooting 70 plus pound 30 inch inline 5 total arrow weight volition exist over 475 to 550 depending on arrow choice. I figure I'll have plenty behind the arrow to be successful on well placed shot'due south.

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I had great results on a bull years ago with an Ulmer Edge (predecessor to the SEVR). Practiced blood trail, quick kill. Every bit you lot said, certainly drawbacks, but a well placed shot will become the job washed with a SEVR.

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I used the grim reaper razor cutting terminal year on a cow. It did the chore fast with a lung shot, only I was less and then satisfied with it and wouldn't utilise them again.
It just didn't go deep, nonetheless double lung, failed to exit. Broadhead was destroyed equally well.

The g5 I used earlier blew right through and kept trucking. Sharpened it upwardly and took an antelope subsequently on with it.

lxx lb bow.

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I've shot a couple javelina with grim reaper fatal steels with less than great results. I'm confident a fixed blade would take passed through while the grim reapers didn't. The sevr is one of the few mechanicals I'd consider

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I had great results on a bull years ago with an Ulmer Edge (predecessor to the SEVR). Good blood trail, quick kill. As you said, certainly drawbacks, but a well placed shot will get the job done with a SEVR.

I used the ulmers on a few bulls and they worked to my satisfaction. No complaints really.

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Thanks for the replies I think sevr gets the nod. Might purchase 3 g5 expressionless meats as well and try them both.

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Now that we have them legal in Idaho (regardless of how we got here).I've been doing my inquiry has anyone one had success with sevr 1.5 , grim reaper pro or g5 dead meat. Or I would take other recommendations of successful hunters. Simply to head of the naysayers, I get the drawback's and know there limitations. I'm shooting seventy plus pound 30 inch inline 5 full pointer weight will be over 475 to 550 depending on arrow choice. I figure I'll have enough backside the arrow to be successful on well placed shot's.

Sorry I hope I'm not detailing the thread…

This is the offset I've heard about this. I did a quick google search and couldn't find annihilation. Heed posting a link?

Every bit far as expandables go, I've used the sevr with success. I've killed ii deer with them and had no problems. Lusk archery has a test video for the 1.5s. They performed really well

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Your odds of something screwing upwardly upon impact with a mechanical, no affair the make, are higher than a fixed. Information technology's only that elementary and Elk are not deer and there are loads of problems with mechanical and shooting deer over the years on all the whitetail states. So compound those issues with a bigger and thicker boned animal. It'south but odds and statistics that would clearly show more game loss with the introduction of mechanicals to the field here in Idaho. Guess people are ok with that. Cool.

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I'm not a fan of one.v" ii-blade heads, but both the iii-blade 1.five" cutting Spitfires and GR Fatal Steels have been devastating on animals for me. I all the same keep a couple Exodus heads in my quiver, but I love those two mechanicals. I'm shooting a 500gr pointer at almost 33" draw and 75lbs, then plenty of free energy. However.......my pointer stopped confronting an offside rib with the Fatal Steel on my CO moose two years ago. So even with my specs......no laissez passer through. Yet devastating......but would similar to accept 2 holes if possible. Come up to retrieve of it........I've never had a pass through with those heads, simply they sure tear up the lungs.

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Your odds of something screwing up upon affect with a mechanical, no matter the make, are higher than a fixed. It's only that simple and Elk are not deer and there are loads of bug with mechanical and shooting deer over the years on all the whitetail states. So compound those issues with a bigger and thicker boned beast. It's just odds and statistics that would clearly show more game loss with the introduction of mechanicals to the field here in Idaho. Approximate people are ok with that. Cool.

I'm an expandable fan just you aren't wrong. I exercise it for several reasons I'll go on to myself. My opinion is unless a person is shooting very high KE, they shouldn't exist shooting them at elk. However, the horror stories of failures need to be taken with a grain of salt. I have taken over 100 large game animals with diverse brands and styles and have never had a failure. With some early models I had blades break upon contact of heavy os but I also had that happen with the original satellite fixed blades I started out with. I accept gone through shoulders on several deer and 1 elk with the heads I mentioned above with no upshot.

My point is at that place are a lot of variables in archery hunting and modern expandables are as dependable every bit most of the other bells and whistles guys are putting on their bows these days.

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Your odds of something screwing upwardly upon impact with a mechanical, no matter the brand, are college than a fixed. It'due south just that simple and Elk are non deer and at that place are loads of issues with mechanical and shooting deer over the years on all the whitetail states. So compound those issues with a bigger and thicker boned brute. It'south merely odds and statistics that would clearly show more game loss with the introduction of mechanicals to the field hither in Idaho. Approximate people are ok with that. Absurd.

I volition stick with my fixed heads after putting in a lot of work to get them shooting good groups. I wonder if the decreased terminal operation of expandable broadheads will exist evened out from increased accuracy by the guys shooting out of tune bows and under spined arrows that spray stock-still broadheads everywhere.
Does this hateful lighted knocks are now legal as well?

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Glad the legislature decided to tackle this before the laundry list of actually important things they should be working on.

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Glad the legislature decided to tackle this before the laundry list of actually of import things they should exist working on.

Was information technology the state legislature that made this modify? I can't imagine something like this having to go up to the legislature to be changed. I would think the game commission or something would be able to make those changes on their own????? The legislature doesn't demand to waste their time with this kind of stuff.

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I've killed 3 bulls with the 1.five Sevr. I'grand a 27.5" draw at 65 pounds and so definitely lower energy setup than almost. Haven't had ane get more than 100 yards or so.

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I wonder if the decreased terminal performance of expandable broadheads will be evened out from increased accuracy by the guys shooting out of tune bows and under spined arrows that spray fixed broadheads everywhere.

Oregon changed its laws to permit mechanical broadheads a few years ago, and I did some of the research for us that lead to this decision. rclouse79'due south point was a main theme in my research.

I see many out of melody setups at our public ranges in the weeks leading upwards to bow flavor. I believe that poor shot placement is a much bigger business organization than the likelihood of mechanical broadhead failure. Then, if mechanicals tin can improve shot placement by creating less front end-end drag on the arrow, that's a win in my book.

The classic study on stock-still vs. mechs over time was done at the Naval Support Facility Indian Head. Aye, only deer, merely we see that even dorsum then mechs were not showing some abysmal failure rate. Plainly, you demand to shoot plenty KE to go the mechs to piece of work well, especially on elk.

Dynamic pointer flying is another thing to consider and doesn't the attention information technology should. Information technology seems many guys are focused on shooting micro diameter arrows with high FOC, which some of the latest Firenock podcasts claim are not optimal for loftier speed chemical compound bows shooting carbon arrows. Dorge claims that micro diameter arrows are losing free energy more downrange free energy than a standard .246 arrow because the micros take thicker walls and have longer to "recover". As a result, these super skinny arrows are non entering the animal as directly equally they could at typical bow ranges (20 -30 yards) and peradventure bending on touch more than a standard arrow. By contrast, a standard bore arrow tends to recover past 18 yards and will enter the animal straight and stay straighter -- thus more than penetration and better broadhead performance.

Splitting hairs hither it seems, just I wonder if inefficient arrow flying and flex could influence so-called mechanical broadhead failures. If an pointer hits at an oblique angle, the broadhead isn't going to piece of work as well no thing if you shoot mechs or stock-still.

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Was it the state legislature that made this change? I can't imagine something similar this having to go up to the legislature to exist changed. I would retrieve the game commission or something would exist able to make those changes on their own????? The legislature doesn't need to waste their fourth dimension with this kind of stuff.

They bypassed the commission. This went through the legislature

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PS, I shoot SEVR 1.5" heads merely have killed all my bulls with a QAD Exodus fixed caput. Will hopefully shoot one with the SEVR this year and might even try a 1.seven" cut since a my long draw length (31.5") puts my KE at like 90 ft. lbs.

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PS, I shoot SEVR one.v" heads simply take killed all my bulls with a QAD Exodus fixed head. Will hopefully shoot 1 with the SEVR this yr and might even try a 1.7" cut since a my long draw length (31.5") puts my KE at like 90 ft. lbs.

I would not become for the one.7" cut

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I would not go for the 1.7" cut

Not enough free energy you think? I've already got 3 one.5" cut so am content staying with them.

Maybe reserve the ane.vii" for deer then?

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